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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:58 pm 
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Thanks to all here for the info, I went ahead and cut 1/1 front/rear today on my '94 and am VERY pleased with the results. Handling is much improved, and the car just feels better in general. It seemed to be a little high in the front after I let it down, but I'll have to see what happens. I took it for a shakedown after dark and the front seemed to settle, but I'll have to verify that in the morning when I can see better.


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:21 am 
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I've always been an advocate of replacing springs, instead of cutting or heating. But with all the positive feedback i've seen here on cutting them, i may give it a try and save my self 200 dollars possibly. Are you cutting from the bottom of the coil or the top?


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:23 am 
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I cut mine from the bottom, so I could make sure everything seated correctly. I'll go ahead and admit now that I didn't remove the springs from the car to cut them. I was VERY careful and everything worked out perfectly, but I recommend removing the springs to do the job if you have the time and resources.


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 3:11 pm 
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so 1 coil is one full 360 up the spring?


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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:13 pm 
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When you cut the springs.. they never seat with a flat surface like they do from the factory.

I read alot of folks run king spring lows..

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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:52 pm 
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DickyDck wrote:
so 1 coil is one full 360 up the spring?


From my understanding, yeah, one full turn. That is the way I did mine and I'm really happy with it. I wanted the end of the spring to fit in that little "pocket", and it seemed like full turns were the only way I was going to make that work.


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:40 am 
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Tony_SS wrote:
When you cut the springs.. they never seat with a flat surface like they do from the factory.

I read alot of folks run king spring lows..



I've never heard that term before "king spring lows" could you elaborate please?


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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:28 am 
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I think this is the final 'adjustment' he's going to make to the car.
This thing sat up as high as any I've ever seen. Probably because it was a low miler, and had light duty use.
In the end, he cut 1 1/2 coils from the front, and 1 1/4 from the rear. I think it's a little low (especially in the rear), and would probably cut only 1 1/4 front and 1 rear if it were mine... but it's not =)


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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:22 pm 
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Cut springs with no interior except driver's seat. Haven't had a chance to drive it yet but it does feel pretty bouncy getting in and out of it. Makes for some super cool camber though.

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:47 am 
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The idea is to use the thread as a reference. How much did you cut them?

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:45 am 
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suprf1y wrote:
The idea is to use the thread as a reference. How much did you cut them?


Oh my bad. I bought it that way and I was just mentioning my current experience with them. How much distance does a single cut coil usually result in lowering in inches or cm? I know I have about and 1 1/2 inches clearance at the most with that lack of interior.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:26 am 
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Hey guys, so what about the mk1 turbo sprint? Can the springs be cut on the mk1? Or would it not be worth it because of how rare it is to come across a new set? I recently ordered new front rotors, pads and calipers, along with new KYB. GR2s and I also want to lower/ stiFfen the suspension some more. Though I have heard that it is un wise to lower our car with GR2s because of them not being designed for lowering applications. But I don't want to lower the car that much. And plus if they do blow out couldn't I drill and fill them with a nice 30w? Any way that's my questions.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:57 am 
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Measure the springs, and have a look through a circle track catalog for coil over springs. You might find something that fits.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:19 am 
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Thicknes: 10.25mm
Outside dia: 110mm
Long: 341mm

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Rear springs:
Thicknes: 11.25mm
Outside dia: 113mm
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:54 pm 
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Ok another dumbass question from me... YAY. I have 14 inch rims with 185-60-14s on it how low is too low? Also has any one had exhaust clearance issues? Because with the car at stock ride height it hits when im agressive. I just put on my front sway bar but have no use of a welder for the rear so i wanna cut them bitches.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:45 am 
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How many coils you have cutted off at MK1 swift(SA-310)front springs. I want lower my car about 2-3inches.

Edit: I have 165/45R15 tires

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:37 am 
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this is my mk1 non gti version ..with G15a motor inside

i lowered it by custom made coil overs for front...and i had to use the stock springs..and had to cut them as well


i had 2 issues

1....front springs cant handle the stress and the most of the time i get broken spring on bumps etc

2....cutting the rear spring may drop them on a bump.....spring go free and again have broken spring at rear as welll

3....i was using a bit stiff spring ..dont remember which car i got them from...but still i had alot of body roll on turns


now what i m thinking is to cut front or rear shock and spring...and get them re done

ppl around me can work very good but i have to guide and tell what to do

so i need yr help.....which shock i can use and which spring i can use..prefer short shock

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:39 am 
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forgot to mention...

rims size is 13 and tire size is 155/70/13

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:33 pm 
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Woodie wrote:
I cut exactly one coil front and rear on my 98 Metro four cylinder. The back dropped more than the front, looked a lot like GEOPAT's black Metro with the H&R springs. The back end crashed heavily and the exhaust system hit a little on big bumps. Got another set of rear springs and cut 3/4 of a coil. They're much better, not very noticeable cosmetically, but a lot less dramatic when driving. First picture is with one coil cut all around. Second picture is with one coil front, 3/4 coil rear, sorry about the shadow. Don't have a matching picture for the stock springs, but this three quarter view should give you idea of what it was before I started.

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Thanks I will try this on my 4 door, since the suspension components are identical.
1 coil in front, 3/4 in rear.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:38 pm 
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I cut 1 coil on front and 3/4 on rear thanks to woody's suggestion. Although the rear is not as lowered as the front, it will most likely equal out when my very heavy subwoofer and equipment are installed in the trunk. Mind you this is a 4 door 2000 firefly.
Although the rear control rod knuckle stud bushing FUSED to the stud, had to use a gear puller to get off the control arm and a 1-1/4 socket and a hammer with WD40 to get it back on. :?
Also had an alignment done. Would recommend 4 doors to have 1 coil cut all around.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:21 pm 
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Reading through all the previous posts makes me ask a few questions which I hope someone can answer. My car is a lowered MK2 turbo with 195/50/15 tires and I'm looking at installing springs from a 97 sedan. Does anyone know how many coils I need to cut from the 97 springs to make the car sit back at stock ride height? Will cutting 1 coil out of the front and rear do the job?

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Ok so I cut the springs the other day and I love it i did it on my 97 I cut 1 1/2 loops off the rears and 1 loop off the front. It now sits level and handles great and sits slightly lower then our 93. I would for sure do it again and if anyone is thinking of doing it I say go for it you'll love it.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:23 am 
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I Baught a brand new set of apex 35mm lowering springs and i cut exactly 1 full ring off the front and back, i choose apex because they are perfect for cutting they sit in the holders exactly the same after cutting heres a few photos

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the apex springs are amazing on the rear as the coils at the bottom of the spring are very close together so it sits in the seats perfectly

I will have my front custom coilovers fitted on the car in a couple of weeks and i plan to drop the front about 10mm more and cut 1/2 ring of the rear


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My car is on OMP springs -35.
I woud put it a bit lower, has anyone cut them off?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:15 am 
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cut 1 ring off them will drop it about 10-15mm more


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