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 Post subject: tide as a degreaser
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:49 pm 
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i was dissasembeling my cylinder head the other day and i didnt have any of the citrus stuff so i thought id try coldwater tide and it worked wonderfully! i even was able to paint the parts afterwards! i used tide and a small toothbrush and the grease and oil flew right off try it. its a hell of alot cheaper than the citrus stuff ant can tire!

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Yes laundry detergent is a good alternative to engine degreasers. Just make sure to wash all the soap out. Many laundry detergents are biodegradable as well. Usually the stuff your cleaning off is not biodegradable though!

Many degreasers leave an unwanted oily film behind. This film can inhibit paint aheasion. IE using gasoline to clean parts or kerosene are petroleum based products and will leave a oily film behind. Just a word of caution... gasoline is very flamable and a spark could ignite it so I wouldn't use that as a cleaner but I know many mechanics do!

Castrol superclean is what I use, but it removes print off of labels so you need to be very careful where you use that at! To get it to clean real well you have to scrub it with a brush as well! I use a old toothbrush usually for that.

Most shops here in Washington send out the vehicles to a steam clean operation that uses a capture system to filter and capture the contaminates that the steam cleaner removes. They are very enviromentally oriented here. We have Osha and Wisha here that governs what is acceptable in a buisness enviroment. Fines are pretty steep here for violations. Especially enviromental issues!

Very good post on the Laundry Detergent Post!! :D

That brings to mind... I wonder how Dawn dishwashing soap will work? That is what they use to clean birds that are victums of oil spills from tankers in the ocean!


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lol yea i wonder about the dawn.. this winter im going to be resto'ing alotta my engine compontents and i need a cheap degreaser/cleaner. if someone wants to try the dawn and get back to the post lol do it. save the birds :roll:

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i think dawn would be about the same as tide considering they both have the same viscosity and cleaning chararstics just tide is for clothes and dawn is for dishes but they both remove grease so im pretty sure the results would be the same.

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I've never tried Dawn, but I've used other dish soaps to wash parts. Works great for light-duty cleaning. But try it on thick grime and you'll just end up smearing it around and making a mess out of any brush you're using. Fast Orange and other hand cleaners works a little better, but don't use it on anything that can be damaged by the pumice grit (soft aluminum, ball bearings, etc).

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Also, remember that dish soap is just that... a soap. Laundry detergent is a detergent. You'll find that a detergent will work in situations that soap won't. It's much more efficient at removing grease and other goopy hydrocarbon messes compared to soap.

Detergents also do a great job of removing oil from your hands... which is probably why you don't use detergents to wash up before supper or do the dishes.


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I find just regular dishsoap works well, DO NOT wet your hands, take a handfull of dishsoap and scrub untill its almost dry, then add a bit of water, keep scrubbing and then wash it off.
Or do the same thing but use the paste handcleaner stuff beforehand.


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like do you mean the commet stuff?

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that'll work too.


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crnolic wrote:
I find just regular dishsoap works well, DO NOT wet your hands, take a handfull of dishsoap and scrub untill its almost dry, then add a bit of water, keep scrubbing and then wash it off...

Soap is an emulsifier that allows oil and grease to become soluble in water. You'll always get more out of it if you use water as well.

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I think he was saying that if you rub it in really well, it allows the soap to mix in and bond to the sludge first before being washed away.

Just as an aside, the more suds you have is an indicator of how much free soap you have left over when you add water, not how much crap you've washed away. ;)


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my school auto shop uses tidecold water to save money on citrus stuff


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yea works good dont it?

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I can agree on the Tide thing. When I used to run a flatbed car carrier I would use laundry soap (the dry kind) and toss a cup full on the bed, give it a little spray of water, brush it with a broom, then rinse. Got rid of oil, trans, gear, blood, and other types of fluid. Dirt cheap if you buy a big tub of it. I'm sure the liquid soaps work just as well, but the dry was cheaper.

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sick wrote:
lol yea i wonder about the dawn.. this winter im going to be resto'ing alotta my engine compontents and i need a cheap degreaser/cleaner. if someone wants to try the dawn and get back to the post lol do it. save the birds :roll:

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note DANGER!!!! do NOT use dawn to clean parts i used it and tried to pant something afterwards and it just all fisheyed its crap and the tide is easyier to work with also i found the orange citrus hand cleaner works well to de grease parts to paintable condition just make sure to get the grit out :D just thought id update about my experience with dawn this past weekend :roll:
very dissapointed and tides still cheaper :-P

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To clean my underhoods. I get a old windex bottle and put castrol super clean in it, then spray the under hood, let sit 3-4 min and then scrub with a old broom/scrub brush and then rinse it off with a pressure washer on the fan setting- wide spray and way more pressure then a garden hose. It did such a good job on my 3 banger I can read the hoses that were solid black before.

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 Post subject: Re: tide as a degreaser
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I also agree with the Tide thing.
We use Arm and Hammer powdered laundry detergent, and it is so strong, that it will give a skin rash if you don't cut it with enough water.

For the aluminum parts, the spray Simple Green Concentrate and an old toothbrush really makes for a nice job.
If you are having 'mixed results', try using it warm. But as far as it's biodegradable quality: the rinse water from the Simple Green killed my tomato plants...so I wonder if it's really that 'eco-friendly'. :evil:

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Phil N Ed wrote:
For the aluminum parts, the spray Simple Green Concentrate and an old toothbrush really makes for a nice job.
If you are having 'mixed results', try using it warm. But as far as it's biodegradable quality: the rinse water from the Simple Green killed my tomato plants...so I wonder if it's really that 'eco-friendly'. :evil:


Simple Green is pretty cool. But ya... if it strips grease off of an engine, it'll kill a plant. :lol:

You've gotta give it a few years to biodegrade, you know.

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it may not be simple green that killed your tomatoes, but the engine oil and grease your cleaner carried to the ground.

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Crookedtire sells a really nice product, it's fully biodegradable, and it makes oil into a biodegradable as well. I've used it on my driveway with excellent success. Oil Lift is what I think it's called. It's not that cheap though...

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