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 Post subject: Soldering ecu's
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:03 pm 
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Anyone willing to sailer a chip into my ecu?

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 Post subject: Re: Soldering ecu's
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:47 pm 
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Don't solder a chip into your ecu, solder a socket.

Once you've done that, I'd be happy to sell you a chip....

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 Post subject: Re: Soldering ecu's
PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:42 pm 
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If you don't have the skills I can solder a socket or really anything you like. I have lots of experience...
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 Post subject: Re: Soldering ecu's
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:12 pm 
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Can you make a chip that doesn't turn on the CEL like the one I have in mine now ?


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 Post subject: Re: Soldering ecu's
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91 ragtop wrote:
Can you make a chip that doesn't turn on the CEL like the one I have in mine now ?


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Teeth is the man. I just installed one of his chips and it works great. I'm sure he can help you out with that.

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 Post subject: Re: Soldering ecu's
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:00 am 
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macuserman wrote:

Teeth is the man. I just installed one of his chips and it works great. I'm sure he can help you out with that.



If it turns out the ECU in my '88 Forsa that runs its Hitachi mixture control solenoid carburetor is fried, and I can't find a replacement ECU that works, could you or Teeth fix my ECU?


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 Post subject: Re: Soldering ecu's
PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:12 am 
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I just did one of these recently and took a few photos. If you are ever doing this job and need a reference here are some pictures.

This is where the socket goes...
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And this is what the final result will be:
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If you look at these pictures closely you'll see that the chip in the socket here is the original chip, I just wanted to point out that if you do the job correctly the original chip will not be destroyed and is still available as a backup if you ever need it.

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 Post subject: Re: Soldering ecu's
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You need to go into "business". I don't know how much you'd charge to socket an ECU, but I regularly hear from potential customers who are worried about getting it done right--some of whom would get free chips from me if they could get their stock chip out without damage:

http://teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=59558#p439023

Any local electronics repair shop should be able to put in a socket, but whether it's a question of method or skill, I gather it's not as easy to save the chip too--the guys I go to locally for this kind of work did a fine job of installing the socket, but ruined the chip last time I needed it done :(

I can sort through code to make a good custom chip for any Swift GT/GTi, but I'm no solder ninja :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Soldering ecu's
PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:59 pm 
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Teeth wrote:
You need to go into "business". I don't know how much you'd charge to socket an ECU, but I regularly hear from potential customers who are worried about getting it done right--some of whom would get free chips from me if they could get their stock chip out without damage:

http://teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=59558#p439023

Any local electronics repair shop should be able to put in a socket, but whether it's a question of method or skill, I gather it's not as easy to save the chip too--the guys I go to locally for this kind of work did a fine job of installing the socket, but ruined the chip last time I needed it done :(

I can sort through code to make a good custom chip for any Swift GT/GTi, but I'm no solder ninja :oops:


Well so far only one person has asked me to do this and it took me awhile to get around to it because I am busy working on my masters degree. However, I have a lot of experience working on stuff that is much smaller than our ECUs things that have SMD or BGA pads. There are a couple tricks to getting these kinds of chips out without causing damage, but it is very doable.

That said I'm happy to help whomever, I'm not really sure on a price I did a trade for this one so there wasn't a $ amount on it. I'm a bit curious to know what your local PC tech charges you to butcher one. Anybody can hack one off and heat the pins till they drop out :( .

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 Post subject: Re: Soldering ecu's
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:54 pm 
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I've installed a number of ECU sockets for members over the years. I work slowly and carefully, as there are a number of ways the ECU can get damaged. The circuit board traces can easily be torn from the board. Even a little bit of residual solder can be enough to damage the traces when you pull on the chip. I like to take a small screwdriver, and apply a small force to the side of the pin to see if it will flex slightly in the hole. If there's any solder still in place, it won't flex properly. You really do need to check if the pins are all free, because I have sometimes found that the chips have glue underneath them holding them to the board! When you pry the chip up, you really want to be sure that any resistance you're feeling is the glue separating, and not one of the traces peeling off the board. I've never wrecked an ECU, never damaged a chip, and I've never heard any complaints.

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