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 Post subject: Cheap Head Gaskets
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:00 pm 
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So now I know what happens to cheap head gaskets - THEY fold UP They looked as good as Suzuki's stock gasket

This was at about 6-8 PSI on my new engine.

New MLS gaskets are on the way -

Some of us learn the hard way. It looks like it just pushed it out.

I will say the engine was starting to run better than it ever has, - then poooffff - white smoke.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:33 am 
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Engines always seem to run best right before they go pop. Where did you get the mls from?

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:29 am 
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VR4 wrote:
Engines always seem to run best right before they go pop. Where did you get the mls from?

Strider on this forum still waiting for it to arrive

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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why are you still waiting , just do that !

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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and the masked spammer strikes again! :twisted:

don't click on the links above. you are warned. :blackeye:

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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T3ragtop your on those spammers like white on rice :P.

I got stuff from strider...I got the cheaper "voyage by boat" shipping :P Takes a while bout two months but it will come strider is the man to go to for parts if he has it!! Air mail would be only couple weeks.

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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91droptopgeo wrote:
T3ragtop your on those spammers like white on rice :P.

I got stuff from strider...I got the cheaper "voyage by boat" shipping :P Takes a while bout two months but it will come strider is the man to go to for parts if he has it!! Air mail would be only couple weeks.

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thanks man.. i still have stock for the gasket


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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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i wish you had the shorter ones with only 3 holes. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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t3 ragtop wrote:
i wish you had the shorter ones with only 3 holes. :lol:

Don't you have tin snips? =)

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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tin snips are for hacks. :-P i have aviation shears. :lol:

if i was inclined to waste a perfectly good twincam mls head gasket, i'd probably take it to a sheet metal fabrication shop and get the guys to use their hydraulic shear to make a clean cut. :wink:

this winter's engine project will probably get a sheet copper gasket and be fitted for o-rings but an mls head gasket for a g10t would be handier.

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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strider wrote:
91droptopgeo wrote:
T3ragtop your on those spammers like white on rice :P.

I got stuff from strider...I got the cheaper "voyage by boat" shipping :P Takes a while bout two months but it will come strider is the man to go to for parts if he has it!! Air mail would be only couple weeks.

Chris


thanks man.. i still have stock for the gasket



I finally have the gasket !! it has been installed and engine is running.

Its a great looking gasket no comparison -


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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:30 pm 
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a thing of beauty and a joy forever. :D

man, i wish i could find one of those for a 3 banger.

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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You blown a gasket with only 6-8 psi on ARP studs?? Smells detonation by a mile. You should thank that "shitty" gasket for acting as fail-safe and saving your pistons. What fuel management are you using Wilf?

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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Doesnt take 6psi to blow the cheap gaskets. Had 6-8 fail back to back on g13's, two on g16's, one honda d15. A year later with good gaskets, no issues on any of the vehicles again. Boring, stock engines not being abused. Gaskets looked good, but there was a quality diference without question. Beware cnsauto's gaskets off ebay(eristic brand). Detonation would speed up the process for sure, but with what I experienced, it really opened my eyes to cheap parts. Expensive hit doing that many on warranty to!

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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You blown a gasket with only 6-8 psi on ARP studs?? Smells detonation by a mile. You should thank that "shitty" gasket for acting as fail-safe and saving your pistons. What fuel management are you using Wilf?

I understand your thoughts as well - but from the time the engine was started i thought i could smell abit of glycol(sweet smell) this had me worried. Engine management is turbolink. With Extra injector. I have wide band as well. Its been running rich for the most part ,very rich, 9-10 It was still below 13 not sure exactly at the time. I had just fixed a problem with my blow off valve which was leaking and bleeding off air alittle this was making it go very rich.
I was just slowly adding abit of boost and adjusting fuel Through range. Timing is gradually backed off.
I was working on idle area because of cams to get it to idle. Got this working and needed to change top end because of this. It the way the map changes in the turbolink.
I was thinking of adaptronics but this has been working !?

Question Now that engine is running i need purge the exaust. I have white smoke still coming from it. Any one know how long this might take ? Or a better way

Its is not coming from engine - as i undid exhaust flange near engine.

It is not from engine, i checked by breaking exhaust champ after turbo.

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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Hey Wgotzman, What is the cloth that you have the gasket sitting on? It looks like the same kind that I need to fix my 93 GT seat.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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Question Now that engine is running i need purge the exaust. I have white smoke still coming from it. Any one know how long this might take ? Or a better way



Ever watched "Gods are Crazy" ? There is a winch trick that works very well for purging excess of water from the tailpipe. That or you can hang me the car for a couple of minutes and I will dry it off for you. :ez_cool:

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 Post subject: Re: Cheap Head Gaskets
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wgotzman wrote:
Question Now that engine is running i need purge the exaust. I have white smoke still coming from it. Any one know how long this might take ? Or a better way



Ever watched "Gods are Crazy" ? There is a winch trick that works very well for purging excess of water from the tailpipe. That or you can hang me the car for a couple of minutes and I will dry it off for you. :ez_cool:


OK - its all good now just needed to be more patient. "Getting the car to you would be a problem - ha" Then I would miss all the fun.

By the way Jess I think you may have been right - to some degree. I was checking my map on timing and the pull back was not as much as I thought I used to have it. I have put this back in and alittle extra just to be sure for now.

I was changing to many things - fuel blow off valve problems etc.

Car ran great up to the failure - I do like the little burble the engine has now with the new cams. good response. But not pushing boost yet.

I was tring to get the car ready for a track day this last week but not eough time to be comfortible with it. Full day a Calgary Raceway

I took my miata - great fun but not the fastest car out there - well the slowest really over all - totally stock. Great in the bends. Alot of high powered cars at Calgary Raceway. But they are closing it down !!

In the end even this car let me down clutch throw out bearing failed on me - towed to dealer. Rental to get me home.

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