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 Post subject: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:03 pm 
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Im going to start a thread on my hybrid 1600 build. I just took my parts to be balanced so i will start adding pics and more info when i get it back. Basically Im doing a 1.6 bottom end with 1.3 top end. I have a custom honda intake manifold for it with a turbine tech manifold and masterpower turbo. A act honda k24 pressure plate with d16 4 puck disc. 98 Accent trans with some custom traction bars with 88 prelude brakes. Thats the basics but i will add more info as i go. Feel free to ask decent question. Thank Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:20 pm 
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Ok got my parts back today. will take pics later. Look at my thread in the group purchace section. I have someone willing to make hyundai trans adapters. I will post more later with the pics. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:51 pm 
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Here are a few pics. sorry i suck with a camara and this is befor cfinal cleaning. Everything is powdercoated not painted. That intake doesnt look good in the pics but is a work of art in person. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:56 am 
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I'm not a big fan of color on engine parts, but if I were you and paid somebody for that powder coat job I would take the block back and tell them to spray all the spots from the underside they missed in that pic.

The adapter plate is a small part of the hyundai trans problem, what are you doing about the axle shafts? I'm curious as I haven't seen anybody talk about this swap that has seriously looked into it....

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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:57 pm 
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Hey. I did the powdercoating myself and i know i missed those spots. I ran out of powder and i had the block on a baking pan and couldnt get to those spots. After i do what i need to to the block i am going to do a second layer and do it nice and thick because i have about 8oz left from the stuff i just bought. That was one of my first pieces i did and its all being done in a house oven. The intake looks alot better in person. Its a transparent red. I just wanted to get a few pics up and i will do finished pics after everything is clean. Im not sure exactly with the axles yet. After i get the new mounts welded in and have them adapted together i will put it in the car and figure them out. Im really looking forward to this trans because i have broken so many of those weak ass swift trans. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:13 pm 
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A few more pics of parts. All of the powdercoat is being done by me in a house oven in the garage so its not the best quality but it is alot better then paint. The header and down pipe are from turbine tech and are ceramic coated that they did. I dont think they would look good in the same high temp silver the exhaust side of the turbo is in. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:34 pm 
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I think they would look great in the high temp silver, better then they look now at least!


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:17 am 
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I might do it. its just such a brite silver but well see how many others think that. Some one just offered me a turbo for this project in town for a few hundred but i did think it would be to good. I wish i had picks but it was off a big john deer and only had a 3.5 inlet with a t4 flange and would have taken all and i mean all the space in front of the motor to the bumper. He claims i could be full spool by 5. I turned it down but would have been funny to have on the car and open the hood to show people. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:39 pm 
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I know im going slow getting parts together but i am trying a different set of rods for about $350 but i might say more after i get it running. This should be a fun little beast. Im not settling for under 268whp. I have to beat my friends 3800 supercharged bonnivilles power. This is the only real change to the plan so if all goes well i will be selling my stock polished and balanced rods. If i can get my 1953 buick sold i will be done in about 2 months. Thought i would do a small update if anyone was wondering. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:57 am 
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stay at it bromie!

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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:45 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:44 pm 
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Ok a little up date. I powder coated the header and down pipe same as the turbo exhaust side. The adapter plate was finished yesterday. Yay finally..... i will get pics up this weekend of it and hopefully have shortblock and trans together. The head is ported and polished. The head is being surfaced and the exhaust flange. The flange is being cut 0.05inch more on the flange all but the portsurface. I had sealing problems last time and on my na car so i figured hey why not have it resurfaced and then my friend was all like hey lets try it like this and see if it works. And it did so far on the na car. Once the head is cut it is being hot tanked and hopefully will be done first thing in the morning. Tomorows goal if possible is motor+trans coupled and head assemeled and on the motor. Shooting for car to be driving the end of this month. Cross your fingers. I will get pics of it all this weekend and you guys can let me know how my ports look (first polish job ive done) my friend ported it though. And if the plate works fine i will try to get a price for the adapter plate for everyone. I just want to make sure it all holds befor i sell them but it should work better then our glass boxes. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:00 pm 
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Nice and thanks for send me the pic of the adapter plate looks wel done...

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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:25 pm 
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Thanks. I have the pics on a friends camara but i left it at his house so ill get them up when i can. I was going to try and have it going by the beggining of the month so when my friend was done with basic training he could ride around a bit with me like he wanted but its not the middle of december he ll be back. its the next two weeks so im going to try to rush on it and maybe have it done befor he leaves. But ill post some pics eventually. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:36 am 
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Hey figured i would give an update. I didnt get the car done in time. I just got the motor in the car and have some fit work to do with axles still. But for the record to get this trans in you must notch your frame. So im trying to get it done soon but i dont know how that will go. Figured i would post and be the 1st post of the new year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok i will try to get some pics soon even though i cant close my hood yet..... Yes the 1.6 with the intake i have hits the hood. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:45 pm 
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here is a set of pics for an update. i got the shifter mounted in were i want it. I have to cut and try to make the plastic fit now that i moved the shifter back a few inches. I have a new big..... really big brake setup im putting on that ill post some pics of when im done. I think they may be a bit too big for a geo. ill post pics once i get the axles cut and put in and i will be putting my front coil overs on. I may need a bigger master cylinder anyone know one that will fit??? I have to get the rear mount fabbed up and then its time for a little new wiring. It will be swapped from dis to edis4 and i got rid of that little gt 55amp alt and put a gm 100amp on. after the wiring is done ill put the radiator back in hook all that stuff back up and maybe make a front mount for extra holding. I did have to cut the hood bracing out over the motor to make this intake fit under the hood with the 1.6. Its coming along slow but its coming. feed back welcome.


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:02 pm 
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Looking good.

VERY interested to see pics and specs on what you do for axle shafts.....

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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:15 pm 
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What it is looking like right now because of being extremely broke i have to work with what we have. 2 swift gt axles, 2 hyundai axles that i got with the trans. They have the same hub spline but the suzuki trans end is alot smaller. On the gt ones are too short to cut and respline and i dont want to use a intermediate shaft. The hyundai are too long but they are under cut behind the spline and dont get back up to the right diameter till it would be too short so pretty much we decide what would be best for now and should hold up is cut the hyundai axles in the center and take out the length needed and then weld them back together and maybe put a sleeve over where we welded for extra strength. I will try to get pics of everything but i always forget to bring the camara and i suck at taking pics if you havent noticed but im trying. My friend is doing all the welding because i suck and havent ever used a mig untill i welded in the plate in the floor to cover the old shifter hole and to weld in my new brackets for the shifter. I only burt like 3 or 4 little holes in the floor he had to fix but it held fine. ill take pics of it but just be nice about my crapy looking welds. I will be setting up another valve cover to use the volvo coils and getting another set of them to post up for sale on here if anyone is interested. They fit nice and snug and look great. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:17 am 
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Stephen, Why the hyundai trans. Are they tougher? Just wondering cause it would seem to me that they would be cheap at a wreckers. Thanks. RGKentin


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:22 am 
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Payed $220 with axles shifter cables mounts brackets everything. There was a rumor i kept hearing from a bunch of peurta rican guys that used to have swifts over seas. They all claimed the same thing that they had stock hyundai tranies on theyre 10 sec cars. And they never had any probs. If you look at the case compared to ours it is webbed to hell and back so no prob of case flexing the trans is a few inch longer with a nice large diff and about twice the weight so it must be build with a better material if it is that much heavier but anything is an upgrade over our trans. They are cheap easy to come by and after lots of searching and talking to hyundai guys and forums none of them have any complaints about the trans other then those few guys who cant drive and wonder why theyre syncros went out. So to me it looks better in every way. I will definantly put the trans to the test when i get it done just to make sure though. I want 270ish whp and about 300lbtq.


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:58 pm 
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Actually...

All too often cheaper alloys are heavier than the stronger ones, I took two 12.9(identical specs) bolts one was 'YFS' made in the USA(maybe) and the other was a HoloKrome, and the HK was noticably lighter than the YFS by about 8 grams on the scale.

Also pick up a Chrome-Moly socket and pick up a Chrom Vanadium socket, they'll be the same size or the CV one will be larger and weigh almost twice as much while being weaker than the CrMo socket.

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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:40 pm 
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Well i know from checking the hyundai forums all they are doing is tearing syncros out. Look at our forum and see how many trans have been broken. I breathed on thy hyundai one and it didnt shatter into pieces so i figured it must be stronger. The case is clearly made to handle a bit more power with all the ribs but ill put it to the test. I have been busy trying to get my lpn license so i had to jump through hoops and take a big $400 test that i couldnt afford so i havent had time or money for the car. Ill get it together and get some vids and see what happens


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:04 am 
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Yup Yup, let us know how much abuse it can take. It might be a more viable alternative than the hard to find hydraulic clutch 1.6 5 speeds.

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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:32 am 
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Ok will do and i plan on a bit of abuse. Im not real big on dropping clutchs though just hard roll outs but we will see. I passed my test and am still looking for a job. damn economy. I worked on it a bit yesterday and the front under body brace is made and we put the trans mount on that. Axles are polished and smooth where they were welded just have to check to make sure they are completely straight befor they go into the oven. Im not going to waiste time taking pics yet when i could be working so ill just take them once the car is on the road and broken in. Ill tak pics underneith and on top when its being dyno tuned. Ill get some videos and all once i drive it a little. Im still not sure what rpm i want to run though. I wanted 8k but i might just do 7500 to be safe and most likely up to 22psi. Thanks Stephen


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 Post subject: Re: My hybrid build
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:32 am 
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Ok an update. I have 65psi oil pressure on cranking. Everything is made up and installed other then the exhaust to fit the 1.6 extra height and bolting the core support back in. The k series pressure wouldnt work because i couldnt get a throwout bearing large enough to fit. The stock hyundai one looked like it was fine untill we tried cranking. So i had to pull it all back out and put a 1.6 sidekick clutch kit in. Hyundai throwout bearing works fine with this. I cut the core support out because it is always in the way but i will make plates to bolt it back in so i can take it out as i please. The one thing holding it up is the megasquirt. We think we found the problem which was corrupt old software in the ms. But We havent had time to put the lab top on and see if it fixed the problem.The only other things i want are the map daddy map sensor just because i plan on the full 21psi that the one that came with the computer maxes out at, I need to get someone to solder in the wires for my electronic boost controller ( I want 12-15psi and it to switch to 21psi when i push the ac button) and the last thing is get rid of my 440cc injectors and get or trade for some 750cc injectors. The injectors will be the main thing holding me back on power. So once i get it running i will post a video maybe and then ill make sure i get a video when it is dyno tuned which should be less then a month after im driving it. Then the fun videos will come. I have a few cars im soposed to race after it is tuned. ls1 ws6 firebird, r33 skyline, k20/24 eg hatch, 352 fox body mustang.... There are a few more. By the way did i mention my friends dont know how not to talk s**t to people??? And the only one i planned on running was a built pontiac gtp that has a full zzp and intense catalog in it. Its turboed and on 20psi in 408whp. So it should be a good run knowing it is 4000lbs. Ill keep you guys posted when i have it on the road. Thanks Stephen


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