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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:12 pm 
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Sol wrote:
As far as the trivia slot my only guess would be a groove for the starter. (?)


Not a bad guess.
It is where the magnet goes to collect the shrapnel when your transmission grenades.
In your case, you would have found all the metal down by the drain plug stuck to that magnet.
IF it were there!

I'm wondering if it was left out by the factory in an effort to save money or someone pulled apart your tranny in the past and discarded it.
You might look in the drain pan and see if it accidentally was included with your waste.
That happens a lot.

Great pictures of the two roll pins and it looks like you are our new transmission expert as the roll pins are in great shape and can be reused.
Keep up the good work and start a new thread about your transmission as you build it!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:43 pm 
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FYI, I had previously talked to the kit distributor and asked
if all the parts were available separately.
In an effort to save some money on the next tranny
overhaul I thought I might just want to get certain
pieces and source some elsewhere.
A good example are the axle seals which I found online
from an overseas distributor for about $3 each shipped.
Nice double lip seals.
A micrometer and some measuring will also help determine
some less expensive parts. The diff bearings are easy to measure
outside/inside diameter and thickness, using that criteria
to search will net you some very competitive pricing.
For the seals with the lips, that gets tricky unless the
sizes are stamped on the seals. So it's easier sometimes
to measure the parts that the seals would fit to determine
the correct sizing.
With some determination and patience, you might piece together
the whole kit separately for less than half the price of the Ebay
kit.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:51 pm 
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Like many threads on Teamswift, the last guy to use the thread will probably have some bits of info that you might want, so it's wise to start at the bottom and work your way up =)

Or something like that. Here's my 2 cents.

For the moderators: The easiest way to find this thread is in the Transmission/Clutch/LSD index, where it is listed as "DIY MK1 Transmission Repair (splitting the case)" but it has the info you need for Mk2/3/4 too--maybe lose the Mk1 in the description so everybody knows this is the place... 8)

Also, if you're one of the Mk2/3/4 guys and you skipped waaay down the thread to find the stuff on your gearbox, then you might follow the links to "Dr. Bill's" thread on the automotive forum that Phil listed in this post:

http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=42589#p343098

And you might have missed that Phil updated this thread at the very beginning to include a link to his own complete rebuild thread. Here it is again in case you started from this end:

http://teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=50486

Phil's thread is more concise and considerably less weird. On the other hand Dr. Bill's photos are nice in that they often show exactly which parts are involved in each step of the process as described by the FSM, which doesn't always include good pictures or diagrams. Dr. Bill also makes some mistakes you can learn from :ez_wink:

And, nobody mentions these bolts that hold on the "transmission stiffener", shown here in place holding the black 5th gear cover on:

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And here disassembled, with some other hardware:

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Yes they have threads at both ends :shock:

If the trans was assembled by a thoughtful person, two nuts torqued against each other will get them turning loose. If not, you may have to mangle them with a vice grips, then clean the thread back up with a die afterwards :(

It's not that hard, but I was stumped for at least 10 minutes when starting my teardown because I thought they were studs pressed into the other side of the case :oops:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:55 pm 
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stop making this seem so easy.... =)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:18 am 
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JamalSpelling wrote:
FYI, I had previously talked to the kit distributor and asked
if all the parts were available separately.
In an effort to save some money on the next tranny
overhaul I thought I might just want to get certain
pieces and source some elsewhere.
A good example are the axle seals which I found online
from an overseas distributor for about $3 each shipped.
Nice double lip seals.
A micrometer and some measuring will also help determine
some less expensive parts. The diff bearings are easy to measure
outside/inside diameter and thickness, using that criteria
to search will net you some very competitive pricing.
For the seals with the lips, that gets tricky unless the
sizes are stamped on the seals. So it's easier sometimes
to measure the parts that the seals would fit to determine
the correct sizing.
With some determination and patience, you might piece together
the whole kit separately for less than half the price of the Ebay
kit.


both diff bearings are standard, you can get them cheap from SKF, same for the smallest one..
the big one on input shaft is special, i only get it from suzuki (SGP, but it was made in india so... :mrgreen: )
the cone bearings are special too.. SGP only.. you can change the bottom one with some similar standard bearing ut you need to put about 1mm washer under it..

for me, friend made me few washers to put under that bearing and few washers to get the right preload on the top one.. but i still prefer original bottom cone bearing.. so it's 3 standard (SKF explorer) and 3 "special" i buy from suzuki dealer...
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about those "2 side thread" bolts.. they have standard metric thread so i change them with normal allen head bolts.. i just put them in to get the silicone out of holes, then when i mount box to engine i use 2 hard warshers under that carrier and bolt it up with standard bolts.. it's much easies..

i don't have much pics as i'm not really fan of using camera a lot.. but i build about 20 swift gti gearboxes in last year or 2.. mostly for friend for local racing..
stock, stock with lsd, short ratio FD and dog boxes.. but he broke everything :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:44 pm 
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Here's a nice tutorial with pictures:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=50486
It covers the input and counter rotating shafts - pressing off the gears etc.
Then it goes through a nice assembly.
In case it isn't mentioned in this thread elsewhere, I thought I'd add it so the next guy can find it easily.

Here's a sample picture from the thread:
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(An MK II/III 'black box' tranny input shaft, stripped.)

The first time you do this, you are heading into 'new territory', so it may seem difficult.
Once you have done all the steps, you probably will say, "Gee, this was pretty easy."

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DIY Clutch Adjustment: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=48281
DIY Wheel Bearings: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29003
DIY Shocks: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=45483
DIY Wheel Align: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=42479
Once you get the cars dialed-in (compression, leaks, bearings, alignment, brakes) swap in new rubber and glass, you've got something which should last for years!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:17 am 
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This will really help me out
Thank you


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