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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:31 pm 
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have no clue about this stuff , need advice.


i have a 94 metro ,

i want to replace stock speakers , with? (advice here)

what sub? i dont mind using up space in hatch


any thoughts are welcome ,


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:45 pm 
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Need to know a bit more of qwhat you're looking for in the way of sound and we can recommend something better. If its just a simple system go with a good set of coax drivers in the front and a decent 8"-10" subwoofer in the back. Going more elaborate or louder will need more info on your requirements.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:54 pm 
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i want it to have good deep base and to be loud.

i mainly just need to know the basics of what i will need
to put subs in my car.


music style mainly rap


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:22 pm 
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Find yourself a good quality subwoofer amp (class D monoblock) that puts out say 500W....get yourself a niec big enclosure with a pair or 12" subwoofers..turn up and enjoy.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:24 pm 
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alright , so before i save up for 2 12"
my friend gave me 2 8" subs already in a box.

what amp will i need for these 2 8" subs?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:07 pm 
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Look at the RMS rating of the sub and double it..that should power them fine.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:08 pm 
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8" subs make for a pretty nice match for the 4" speakers in the oem holes and a medium power sq system. they might be a little thin for loud bass for rap, though.

i've run 10" subs that were decent. the hatchbacks have a good deal of cabin gain. i have also run a single 12" sub in a good enclosure that would beat up the block.

stay away from cheap amps that have their power rating in "if lightning strikes" watts. most of those are pretty horrible and sound even worse if you play them loud. the total harmonic distortion on a cheap amp can hit 10% when you crank them up and they just sound like ass no matter how good the subs are.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:41 pm 
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there radioshack "realistic sub woofers"

Frequency Response (-6 dB)..................................40 Hz to 1 kHz
Impedence...............................................8.0 Ohms/*4.0 Ohms
Flux Density................................................... 7.8 Kg.
Sensitivity....................................................86 dB/92 dB
FS...................................................................45 Hz
RE.......................................................8.0 Ohms/4.0 Ohms
QTS...................................................................0.48
QMS......................................................................2
QES....................................................................0.6
VAS....................................................,,.........1.7 ft 3
SD................................................................0.214 m2
XMAX (Peak).......................................................0.310 in
Vd...............................................................10.5 in 3
Le................................................1.4 mH/0 35 mH (@ 1 kHz)
No..................................................................0.48 %
Pe............................................................100/50 Watts


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:28 am 
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Personaly I'd pass on them but you could make them work OK. I wouldn't put more than 100W through the pair though. A good single 12" sub would blow those out of the water...likely a good 10" would do it too.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:19 pm 
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Personaly I'd pass on them but you could make them work OK. I wouldn't put more than 100W through the pair though. A good single 12" sub would blow those out of the water...likely a good 10" would do it too.

thanks for the info.

what do you suggest for (2) 10" and (1) 12" subs and amps for them?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:55 pm 
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Whats your budget?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:46 pm 
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hmm


ill put three budgets.

100$


200$


300$


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:20 am 
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Wirthin that budget you likelly won't find too much. You will need to check ebay to find some gear and even then I don't know that you have enough to pay for amp/sub, wiring kit, and instal. I wouldn't even know what gear to recommend. Try to stick with brands like Pioneer, Alpine, Kenwood etc. Your best bet will be a single 10" sub with a smaller 150-200W amp...or save up more money. It gets expensive fast :mrgreen:l

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:43 am 
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what about these


http://cgi.ebay.com/1600W-Car-Amplifier ... 53e0cb6a46


http://cgi.ebay.com/2000W-CAR-AUDIO-AMP ... 4399e906e9


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KENWOOD- ... ioQ5fVideo


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:17 pm 
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That last kit shows promise

But I'd worry about the 14ga, I've never used less than 12ga and that was a 2 foot hop.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-JBL-Dual-Ven ... 334f1505ec

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http://cgi.ebay.com/2-JBL-GT5-10-CAR-AU ... 5ad8930f26

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http://cgi.ebay.com/SOUNDSTREAM-TARANTU ... 51916b7242

I drool over the really expensive JBL 10" SQ-Comp subs, but this setup should do you.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:49 pm 
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Wow...Egay is getting way too cheap. $310 for that system seems lie a really good deal. Just need to budget in some money for a 4 gauge kits (unless it was included in one of those deals) and installation. Installation is actualy pretty straight forward so if you're at all handy you could tackle it yourself. Figure another $50-$100 for a nice set of coaxes and you should have a pretty nice little system in there.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:10 pm 
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The amp kit in my post includes this stuff:

17’ 4 AWG Red Linkflex Power Cable
17’ RCA Cable
3’ 4 AWG Black Linkflex Ground Cable
17’ 18 AWG Blue Remote Wire
25’ 16 AWG Speaker Wire
AGU Heat Resistant Fuse Holder
60 Amp AGU Fuse
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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:24 am 
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what would be a good set up if i wanted

1 good 12" sub

im trying to save space.

thanks

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i just ditched the 12" Kove sub in my vert for a 10" Hart Professional sub (same manufacturer under a different name.)

the 10" sub has a much tighter response and a little higher fill in the upper register which compliments the 4" component drivers better than the 12". even with the nearly non-existent cabin gain in the vert it'll beat up the block.

to save space, try a good 10" in a 1.2 ft3 ported enclosure. the hatchbacks have a considerable amount of cabin gain and when combined with a modest amp of 300 watts or so, you can get a lot of boom for the buck.

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