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Underbody braces, turbos and more!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:32 am 
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Thanks for the updates - I'm liking this build. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:12 pm 
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that is just awesome!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:02 pm 
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Thank you very much!

I wish you a Happy New Year with this little update! There are still a lot of things to do, but the engine and the gearbox is in the chassis at last! 8)

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:02 am 
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Great work Ronne!

This is turning out to be a very exciting build! 8)

I am curious about how you plan to fuel this beast though... What sort of pump, regulator and fuel rail are you guys planning to use? Will there be a surge tank as well?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:31 am 
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DrelvisGTi wrote:
Great work Ronne!

This is turning out to be a very exciting build! 8)

I am curious about how you plan to fuel this beast though... What sort of pump, regulator and fuel rail are you guys planning to use? Will there be a surge tank as well?

Cheers,

Drew


A Walbro 255L intank fuel pump, an MK1 fuel rail with the stock regulator removed, and fitted with an aftermarket ORG adjustable regulator.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:38 pm 
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About the crank being weak, here is something that should take the negativity off the G16 crankshafts.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/797218/1995-suzuki-swift

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:00 pm 
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Looks nice!! :twisted:

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:29 am 
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That guy is doing the best thing to save the crank though. He isnt going over 7000rpm


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:29 pm 
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Update time: The cooler piping is almost finished, only a sensor is waiting to be installed and there is some work to be done at the blow-off valve. The next step will be the modification of the valve cover and the installation of the oil system of the turbo.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:51 am 
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The time has come, a little update arrives! Lots of little problems were solved in the past days, so it seems that the first start of the engine will occur in a couple of days - on Saturday or Sunday.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:36 am 
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Lookin real good!


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:15 pm 
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Thank you mate!

Finally, here is the link to a short video which will tell you everything without words. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLbGzmpxJSM&feature=plcp&context=C364fc28UDOEgsToPDskINb_a1x7y9eive0DXiPT3t

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:54 pm 
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Get rid of that filter and put a real one on it befor your turbo has a nice meal. Those filters fall apart and dont filter well. Looking good otherwise. Thanks Stephen


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:50 pm 
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Wow!! Nice clean set up! :)

I see the oil line, but is this turbo also coolant cooled? What are you using for engine management/fuel? (I read a few pages back a MK1 fuel rail with a different FPR, Walbro...).


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:34 pm 
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Thank you mate! :)

The turbo is not yet coolant cooled but it will be as soon as the custom-made pipes arrive.

It is currently running with a limited boost of 0.5 bar which will be raised to about 1,5 bar after the car does its first 3000kms.

As for the engine management: a standalone VEMS ECU/EMS is used in this project. http://www.vems.hu/ Here is the homepage of the company in case you are interested in it.
Yes, the fuel rail is from a Mark1 but we chose a Bosch Motorsport "044" fuel pump instead of the Walbro - however it costs about twice as much - as we were told that hardly any problems can occur when using this type of Bosch pump. It is much more reliable and was suggested by the guy who did the programming (and who will do the new one after 3000kms) of the ECU. An SGP one is being used now but it couldn't pump as much fuel as the engine needs with a boost of 1,5 bar so it has to be replaced.

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Ronne wrote:
Thank you mate! :)

The turbo is not yet coolant cooled but it will be as soon as the custom-made pipes arrive.

It is currently running with a limited boost of 0.5 bar which will be raised to about 1,5 bar after the car does its first 3000kms.

As for the engine management: a standalone VEMS ECU/EMS is used in this project. http://www.vems.hu/ Here is the homepage of the company in case you are interested in it.
Yes, the fuel rail is from a Mark1 but we chose a Bosch Motorsport "044" fuel pump instead of the Walbro - however it costs about twice as much - as we were told that hardly any problems can occur when using this type of Bosch pump. It is much more reliable and was suggested by the guy who did the programming (and who will do the new one after 3000kms) of the ECU. An SGP one is being used now but it couldn't pump as much fuel as the engine needs with a boost of 1,5 bar so it has to be replaced.


Can't get any better than Bosch 044 :mrgreen:

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DeTune wrote:
Can't get any better than Bosch 044 :mrgreen:


Agreed :mrgreen: Any further updates on this project?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:49 am 
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I am sorry as I haven't updated this for a very long time.
Here is a timeslip; the weight of the car was well above 1000 kgs and the street tires spun too much:

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At the time of that drag race, the boost was only 0,5 bar and it is still 0,5 but that is soon to be raised firstly to about 1 bar and later to about 1,2-1,5.

A set of wheels was bought again but we have no idea what type of wheels they are. We suppose that these were custom-manufactured - maybe in the USA? There is not a single mark on any of them. They are 2 piece rims, 4x114.3, 7x15, the ET/offset is about 30. Each rim weighs 6kgs. It surprised us that no hub centric rings are needed as they fit the Suzuki hub perfectly! If you have any idea about the manufacturer, please tell us!

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And finally, here are two pictures of the Suzuki Ignis S1600 oil cooler + the custom-made piping + the Mocal thermostatic sandwich adapter that will be installed soon:


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Boner....

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:09 am 
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I dont feel that bad now. We ran almost the exact time and speed. I had a few mph on you with almost a tenth faster spinning all track launching easy at about 2200-2500. about same motor specs just a holset hy35 instead. Good job interested in seeing how our hp numbers compare


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Is that abcivic front end? Lol

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:33 am 
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Thanks Stephen! I am also interested in the comparison of the HP numbers!

That is not a Civic front end but a Swift one.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:39 am 
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Kinda looks like one.. But good job on this build man

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:24 pm 
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Thank you mate! Trust me, that is a European 'mk4' Swift front end. :)

A little update: the fuel pump has finally arrived! :yeahyeah
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:53 pm 
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those bosch 044s are beasts. one of the greats for sure. the new walbro/aeromotive/deatchwerks pumps so far seem to be pretty good too though.


if i had known you had the big body denso i would have reccomended a supra TT (denso 195130-1020) fuel pump. plug and play direct drop in. its physically identical to your stock pump but flows about 280 lph @ 43 psi. at 70 its still flowing about 220 LPH. more than enough fuel


the bosch is reliable but i have seen a few fail in high power supras. i have yet to see a denso fail from anything other than old (5 year old) gas.

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