TeamSwift

Home of the Suzuki mini-compacts ! Your Home for all things Suzuki Swift, Geo Metro, Holden Barina, Chevy Sprint, Pontiac Firefly, and Suzuki Cultus. TeamSwift is a technical performance oriented community!
It is currently Tue May 23, 2017 3:43 pm

Underbody braces, turbos and more!

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Crankshaft Difference
PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:46 pm
Posts: 792
Location: Great Falls ,Mt.
I'm rebuilding a 01 Metro 1.3 engine and it has solid crank journals. The only 1.3 that I've worked on was a 93 Swift and the journals were hollow. Is this solid journal the same crank that would be in the twincam engine ?


Ken.....................


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:34 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:52 pm
Posts: 190
Location: Qc Canada
they switched to solid around 98
my 2001 was also solid but casting is different from a dohc, don't know about the metal if it is forged or not...
i used this type of crank with turbo up to a lot of psi with no problems

_________________
swift 2000
megasquirt efi
rx7 460cc injectors
td05h-16g @ 18 psi
SRP forged civic piston
suprf1y's 200-335i 210-240e camshaft
1.6 gearbox with swift sport 2007 gear ratios
cusco 1way LSD


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:46 pm
Posts: 792
Location: Great Falls ,Mt.
What year did they go to steel main caps ? My 2000 engine has aluminum and the 2001 has steel which makes it a whole lot stouter.


Ken...........


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:46 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:17 pm
Posts: 1378
Location: Alberta, Canada
Are you expecting to push over 200hp? Most builds with decently tuned setups won't push a g13 bottom end beyond its limits, they are awfully stout regardless of which crank they have or main cap style. I'm puzzling over the steel main caps, I don't think I've ever seen that, seems really odd to have an aluminum block with steel main caps? Line boring it that way would weird, with one material on half the hole and another on the other half.

_________________
1995 Swift w/16V 4.39s, 3tech cam, Esteem t-body, Header, needs more.
1995 Gt Mustang "Boss Shinoda" package.
1999 F150 4x4 Supercharged
1967 Mustang 428 auto, never ending expensive project
1993 Civic si h22a, fell in my lap, couldn't resist!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:46 pm
Posts: 792
Location: Great Falls ,Mt.
Does The G13 DOHC have the steel caps ?


Ken...........


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:12 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:17 pm
Posts: 1378
Location: Alberta, Canada
Im almost certain it has aluminum caps. I have never seen steel caps in a Suzuki engine, so I'm curious to hear that the 01 did, I have done hundreds of these engines but very few 00-01's, they didn't need rings or work very often, and simply just not many of the last couple model years were sold around here it seems.
The 98+ engines seemed to be "gt inspired" with somewhat heavier parts inside than the 1.3 sohc 8v 98-97 motors, but not quite as robust looking inside as the gt motors. From my experience I'd sure trust any of the bottom ends though, as long as they had oil they sure held up! I'd leave a 1.3 16v at 6500 rev limit all day and trust it.

_________________
1995 Swift w/16V 4.39s, 3tech cam, Esteem t-body, Header, needs more.
1995 Gt Mustang "Boss Shinoda" package.
1999 F150 4x4 Supercharged
1967 Mustang 428 auto, never ending expensive project
1993 Civic si h22a, fell in my lap, couldn't resist!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:42 pm 
Offline
2" weiner
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 12:26 am
Posts: 300
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Gti crank was forged 75.5mm stroke. (G13B twin cam)
G13A crank had 77mm stroke, hollow crank pins cast and half counterweights
G13BA crank had 75.5mm stroke, hollow crank pins cast and half counterweights
G13BB crank had 75.5mm stroke, solid cast with full counter weights
G10B crank had 61mm stroke, solid cast with full counter weights (like a mini G13BB)

As for main caps, I've seen hundreds of engines, all aluminium mains
Saw my first G13BB steel main cap engine yesterday, intel suggests 2000-2002 models had the steel caps, like a last generation revision before they went to K and M series use.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:01 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:46 pm
Posts: 792
Location: Great Falls ,Mt.
Well, I'm glad that someone else has seen these steel main caps so now I know that I'm not hallucinating.


Ken.......


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:29 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:52 am
Posts: 1454
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Never mind

The G10T also has 74mm, floating wrist pins and hypereutectic coated pistons


Good thread at http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=57297

_________________
sorry bout my bad english


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Yahoo [Bot] and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group